"Mark and Bev Tindall" <> wrote in message . Part 1 A SPIRITUAL AUDIT (for John Mark Ministries retreatants). Some quick answers ..... 7. CHURCH: Am I a regular contributing member of a worshipping/missional community? No. Not the slightest desire to ever belong to an instutional church ever again. I am repelled by most church services. They bore me and put me to sleep. Are my skills/gifts available to others? Yes. 15. HEALTH: Do I have a healthy diet Improving ...due to my wife's insistence. adequate exercise Also improving ...due to my wife's insistence. and sleep Yep. regular physical check-ups? Yep. 17. STUFF: Do I have a desire to sell or give away more possessions than I bring into my home? Yep. Have given more to others in need than I own. Do I (at least) tithe my money, skills and time? No. Tithing is of crops, livestock and the spoils of war according to the OT. I prefer to give as it is it required without measuring how much I give each week. I responded: Fast off the mark with this one Mark :-) (How often have I heard sermons about 'you come to church to *give* not to *get*' - ignoring our personal needs, and the consumer-driven culture we live in, which has invaded the church)... If you can incorporate these responses into the full one after you get back we'll get a nice picture of the *real* Mark Tindall!!!! Thanks for your wonderful honesty! P.S. A note about church services. Have you given the 'high liturgical' churches a shot? C S Lewis expressed similar sentiments to yours about church services with his famous phrase about 'liturgical fidgeting'... He felt that a predictable, structured, timeless liturgy allowed him to relate to God unimpeded by the lack-of-intelligence of the priests/preachers... These days (a la Robert Webber) it's termed 'Mature Christians on the Canterbury Trail'... -- Shalom! Rowland Croucher
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