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Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes

First the story:

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Allah or Jesus.... This is a must read - it's short but very informative!

The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capitain the United States,especially in the minority races!!!

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"

There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"

I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!"

The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.

Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.

I think everyone in the US should be required to read this, but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts.

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in prison ministry.

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One response:

I have a feeling this was sent to me some years ago. Putting Rick Mathes in Google gives a number of results, including a Snopes article saying this is a false report.

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I referred it to a Christian pastor and scholar I regard as authoritative on Islam - Rev. Dr. Mark Durie, and his response is below:

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This message has been doing the rounds for quite a while now. The author, Rick Mathes, who is apparently a well-known minister, has confirmed it. However there are some real problems with the story:

1. Some have reported that the Muslim questioned was not an Imam, but merely a prisoner. But perhaps Rick was misinformed.

2. The story gives an inaccurate account of Islamic law.

It is irresponsible to circulate this story because it is an unreliable source of information about Islam and the teaching it presents is not accurate. The truth is hard enough for us all to understand and process without adding this kind of confusing account. I do not dispute the chaplain's experience, but would not pay much attention to this story..

Mark Durie



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