From: "Ken Smith" <> Newsgroups: aus.religion.christian,nz.soc.religion,alt.religion.clergy Subject: Re: John Stott [1] > "Rowland Croucher" <> writes: > > >"Bill Ramsay" <> wrote in message > . > >> On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:58:34 +1000, "Rowland Croucher" > >> <> wrote: > ><> > >> >When I was working full-time on the campuses on Australia - back in the > >60's > >> >and 70's I discovered that the proportion of committed Christians in > >> >tertiary institutions was significantly higher than in the population at > >> >large. Ken Smith or someone active in tertiary education today might > >offer > >> >an opinion on the present situation... > >> > > >> >The point I'm making is that it ain't necessarily so that lack of > >education > >> >equals lack of an informed faith... > >> > > >> >If you mean by first world standards, _material_ standards, yes, you > >might > >> >have a point. Materialism is probably the greatest enemy of Christian > >> >commitment (or commitment to any religion, probably)... > >> > >> I will say what i like, if you do not like it that is your > >> perogrative. > >> > >> re your last two para's, no i did not mean that at all, the people > >> who are going to africa as missionaries, are just swapping the local > >> religion for the current Xtian fad. As the locals come to develop a > >> more enlightened view to the myths of religion, like those in the > >> west, they will drift away from it. > >> > >> as for your point re the tertiary education system, you are basically > >> dealing with young people who are still developing their philosophy on > >> life and are testing the water as it were. > > >Not just undergraduates: there were more Christian graduates and staff per > >capita than in the population at large... > > Let me add something to my previous post. > The situation has changed a bit now, but around 15 years ago at the > University of Queensland there were so many ordained Anglican priests > hold down academic positions from lecturer up to professor and head of > department that they formed an organisation called the Fellowship of > St John (after the Anglican Cathedral in Brisbane). They met > regularly to share ideas about witnessing and to encourage critical > thinking about issues from a Christian perspective. > > And one of the very strong societies in UK is the SOS - Society of > Ordained Scientists, consisting of people who, in general, reached > some high position in the academic world but were then called to be > ordained. Some continued their university work and combined it with > part-time pastoral service, others turned mainly to pastoral work with > part-time academic involvement. > One member of this is Arthur Peacocke - see my current .signature > (also on my last post) for a brief quotation from him. > > >> for me on the other hand, i was forced to attend Sunday School [i am > >> a child of the late fifties early sixties] at a very young age i saw > >> it [religion] for what it is: a fairy story. > > >I hope you're able to distance yourself from the coercion here and look at > >Christianity objectively... > >> > >> kind regards > >> > >> bill > Dr Ken Smith - Christian, husband, unpaid mathematician, skeptic, ... > `The activities of cosmologists and theologians have at least this in > common: both are assuming that some sense can be made by man of the > universe he inhabits ...' Arthur Peacocke
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