From: Chris Ho-Stuart <> Newsgroups: nz.soc.religion,aus.religion.christian Subject: Re: The old age of earth argument (was Women teaching in Church) Date: 29 Apr 1999 23:02:01 GMT Able <> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:05:13 GMT, (Allistar > Melville) wrote: > >On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:48:56 GMT, (Able) wrote: > > > >>On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:00:34 GMT, (Allistar > >>Melville) wrote: > >> > >>>>>Nice way to avoid the question (which was obvious). Let me pose it to > >>>>>you again, without the typos: > >>>>> > >>>>>Absolutely serious. What do you think? Where do fossils come from > >>>>>(according to your biblical history way of thinking)? > >> > >>>> Things that were previously alive. > >>> > >>>So if we find a fossil that, because of proven dating techniques, > >> > >>Such as? > > > >Counting rings on trees for example. > > The oldest trees are the Bristlecone pines. > They go back to the flood. > How does this help Allistar., all it tells me is when the flood was. I thought you did not believe in a world wide flood? The Bristlecone pines are in an exceptionally arid environment above Death Valley in the USA. The oldest was about 4,900 years old when cut down. However, tree ring counting is not only applied to living trees. Tree rings vary in size from season to season, and it is quite easy to match to samples if there is a substantial overlap in time. There is dead wood lying around the living Bristlecone pines which has been there for thousands of years. By this means, tree ring counting extends back well before the age of the oldest trees, to about 10,000 years. That is well before the flood, if the flood is dated based on literal interpretations of the bible. Furthermore, this method allows accurate calibration of radiocarbon dating. Strict uniformitarian assumptions with radiocarbon dating might be out by up to 10%. Tree ring counting allows us to compensate for changes in atmospheric carbon over time and have an accurate calibration of the radiocarbon method over this period. This is discussed in the following web page, produced by a group of concerned Christians. http://www.koan.com/~nazsaints/essays/RadiometricDating.htm Cheers -- Chris Ho-Stuart
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